Exposing the Hidden Agenda: The Controversial Pastor Who Spoke Out

Rick Scarborough reveals how he confronted schools, exposed hidden agendas, and transformed his city with truth, courage, and faith.

Rick is a Christian political advocate and former Southern Baptist pastor from Pearland, Texas, who leads Recover America and Recover America Action.

Chapters:
00:00:01 Exposing Lies at a High School Assembly
00:01:39 Called to Leave Politics for the Pulpit
00:02:19 First Baptist Pearland and Community Roots
00:04:58 Witnessing the Sex-Ed Assembly Firsthand
00:06:18 Challenging False CDC Statistics
00:08:35 A Pastor’s Confrontation with the Speaker
00:09:10 Taking the Fight to the Church and Community
00:13:09 Houston Chronicle Blows the Story Wide Open
00:15:04 School Board Meeting Turns Into Standing Ovations
00:16:14 Rewriting the Sex-Ed Curriculum with Christian Values
00:18:22 Exposing Corruption in City Politics
00:20:07 Christian Influence Transforms Pearland
00:23:21 Why Christians Must Get Politically Involved
00:28:50 National Media, Attacks, and God’s Favor
00:46:07 The Gospel Invitation and Call to Salvation

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Transcript

0:00:01:13 - 00:00:16:20
Unknown
You can have all the sex you want with anybody you want, as long as you use one of these. And she pulled out a condom, stretched it, blew up like a balloon. Made some lewd comments about the size of the male organ. And that's when I'd had enough. And the lies that you just told these kids are going to kill some of these kids.

00:00:16:26 - 00:00:35:29
Unknown
Sooner or later, it's going to catch up to them. I'm here to try to straighten that out, so I excuse myself. By the time I finish, I'd been interrupted 11 or 12 times by standing ovation because the community was on my side, which was a side of morality. Some things just shouldn't be done. We sit back and do nothing, and we have the country we're living in.

00:00:36:01 - 00:00:56:11
Unknown
It's an amazing thing when somebody can reach the Supreme Court and not know what a man or woman, a Christian, should be involved politically. I believe that it is a core part of our responsibility. You don't have to necessarily be elected into a position, however. Are you support politicians that are pushing forward a Christ like agenda? Satan hates this country.

00:00:56:11 - 00:01:15:27
Unknown
He hates what it stands for. So he's trying to rewrite our history. He's trying to take men and women, the women, the feminization of the culture. Has been incredible to watch. And you scratch your head and you say, where are the real men? All right, Pastor Rick, welcome to the show. Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.

00:01:16:00 - 00:01:39:17
Unknown
Yeah. Very excited to have you on here. You're so involved in a very impactful way politically. You've made a huge impact with pastors. And there's a there's a lot going on that needs, reformation and your, your, your, driving a lot of this forward in our country. And so let's, let's start off with, let's start off with the conversation regarding your daughter and kind of where all this where all this started.

00:01:39:17 - 00:01:59:22
Unknown
So you were a pastor of a fairly large church. Stuff's cruising along. Go ahead. Yeah. I've always had a heart for politics, but God called me to preach. I. I was president to my in high school and also college. But in the middle of my junior year, God flipped me right side up and I understood that I had a calling to be a pastor.

00:01:59:22 - 00:02:19:18
Unknown
So I left politics, and I went, toward getting an education that landed my first church. The first significant church was First Baptist Church of Atlanta on the southeast side of Houston. You don't know where Houston ends and Pearland begins, but it's a it's it's own community owned, school board owned, etc.. One day, I was walking out.

00:02:19:20 - 00:02:42:16
Unknown
I was standing at the back of the church and people were coming out. And they typically tell you appreciate something whether you did or not. They were courteous. But one day pulled me aside and said, are you going to the high school assembly tomorrow? And I didn't know there was a high school assembly tomorrow. Will is I got the check in I should have because the high school assembly speaker had been so controversial in the schools that the principal stayed home with the students on Friday.

00:02:42:18 - 00:02:59:04
Unknown
A little synopsis of what it'd be about. It'd be under the guise of preventing what was then called bridge, later Aids. And it was going to be a very open discussion about sex. If you don't want your child to attend. Sign this note, send it back and we'll put them the study hall led to kids in high school.

00:02:59:04 - 00:03:24:08
Unknown
My daughter, who was a senior that year, my son who was a freshman, and neither of them had told her father, I they're good kids. They've been raised in Christian schools before we went to Pearland. When I went to that particular community, I felt like I ought to put them in the local public school. But my youth pastor, Rod Compton, was monitoring all that for me and keeping me abreast of what the school was doing, and I was looking in as often as I could.

00:03:24:10 - 00:03:41:03
Unknown
Well, neither one of them told me about the assembly, and I've told this in their presence, so I know it's it's true. Miss, you had the car, Richard, who rode home rather than the ride the bus. They discussed the high school assembly and their feeling was. Well, why should we tell dad? He'll get it all? Been out of all.

00:03:41:04 - 00:04:02:03
Unknown
Y'all been out of shape. The school board, administration, they've done this in reverse sort of way because of a parent didn't hear about it. Then they gave tacit approval for their child to attend. So my kids just loaded it up. Never told dad, saved him the trauma, and they were probably right. I probably got a little bit sad about it, but as it was, they went off to school on Monday.

00:04:02:05 - 00:04:20:16
Unknown
Winter sort of. In the meantime, I had a conversation with rod. I said, rod, I'm not going to interrupt. My kids were raised with a great Christian home education. They know right from wrong. So I want you to go monitor this. And if it's out of bounds, let me know. Well, he went to the second of five assemblies.

00:04:20:19 - 00:04:37:27
Unknown
We had a guest in town because our church was going to interview for our Minister of Education position. So I didn't feel like I could even break loose to go down there. But when rod came back to my office, I used to tell people I was just like Moses and I had a rod. I mean, I think I'm a rod must have because rod was the staff.

00:04:38:00 - 00:04:58:06
Unknown
So right from that he's a throwback to Christianity. 25 years ago he he came say sex and mix come the he's just real pure in heart. He came to my office and he just kept saying, you wouldn't believe it, pastor. You wouldn't believe it. He finally convinced me. I wouldn't go believe unless I went. So I hit it off, I guess for lunch, I took my pocket recorder.

00:04:58:06 - 00:05:16:12
Unknown
We'd have cell phones, and the ones we had were eight foot tall. So I took a pocket recorder that I always carried for notes with the fresh tape, and I went to the last of the five assemblies. We had a large for a high school, which was as large as they had in Texas at the time, 2000 plus students, I said.

00:05:16:13 - 00:05:37:16
Unknown
I walked into the auditorium or where they were at, and it was a science hall, said about 500 people, and it was completely packed. So I sat in the chair right at the back. It didn't announce to anybody that I was there. I didn't get a hall pass. I just went and I sat there and I had this impression, no matter how bad this is, don't interrupt.

00:05:37:18 - 00:05:58:04
Unknown
Be calm. You can take care of it through proper channels. Now comes this young lady, all prim and proper. She starts telling off color jokes to get the kids laughing. She was an effective school assembly speaker when I was an evangelist for 14 years. I did over 500 school assemblies. I know what an effective assembly is and she was interacting with the kids and it was great.

00:05:58:06 - 00:06:18:20
Unknown
Except this was all about sex and her rule was you can have all the sex you want with anybody you want as long as you use one of these. And she pulled out a condom, stretched it, blew up like a balloon, made some lewd comments about the size of the male organ, and that's when I'd had enough. My first book was entitled Enough is Enough directly as a response to that high school assembly.

00:06:18:23 - 00:06:42:17
Unknown
So I raised my hand. I was dressed in a suit comparable to today. She looked at me and she said, yes, sir. She was very she was very, receptive to me. She probably thought I was a principal. I said, man, where did you get that statistic that you use? She had said that if a kid used a condom, they would be 94% protected against the dreaded disease of the in called grades.

00:06:42:19 - 00:07:02:21
Unknown
I knew that wasn't true. I'd been preparing a series of sermons on this new disease that was, you know, swarming, swarming across the country at the time to prepare our people to know what was right about it and what was wrong about it. It was basically a gay related efficiency, syndrome, a disease. That's why they called it grids at that time.

00:07:02:23 - 00:07:21:09
Unknown
So, I knew that that statistic was only true of a condom. You buy in a drugstore, you keep it room temperature and pull it out when you're prepared to use it. Not what you buy at a in a truck stop and put in the glove box in 110 degree temperature in Houston. Those are supports that they are almost none.

00:07:21:11 - 00:07:38:03
Unknown
None useful. So I had my hand up and I said, ma'am, where'd you get that statistic? She said, the CDC said I was probably the only one in the room that knew that. MIT center for Disease Control, Atlanta, Georgia. So I raise my hand a second time. But now she knows I'm an adversary. And so she ignores me.

00:07:38:05 - 00:07:56:20
Unknown
But what's impossible to ignore is the pastor of the largest Evangel Church in the community whose kids go to that school. I mean, the kids were just coming across the room. Who is that guy? That's Mrs. Dad, that's Richard's dad. So finally she with kind of a gruff said, yes sir. I said, ma'am, I said I called her by name is matter of fact.

00:07:56:22 - 00:08:14:10
Unknown
I said, Amy, I've read everything. The center for Disease Control, Atlanta, Georgia, is printed on this subject in preparation for a sermon series and no revival. Read that condoms are that effective, especially not the kind that the kids are using. Well, a lady jumps up across the room. She turned out to be a home economics professor, she said.

00:08:14:10 - 00:08:35:18
Unknown
I read the same statistic in a teen magazine. It's true. At that point, I knew this. This was going to go down a rough track, so I just excused myself and sat down. I literally gotta put my head in my hands and sobbed a little bit because I was so saddened and grief stricken. Then our school was paying this lady to spread this lie to all these students.

00:08:35:20 - 00:08:56:21
Unknown
So as short as I can make it and I've written books on it, others have written books about it. I went back to my office. I stuck around long enough to speak to Amy. She was buttressed by 4 or 5 teachers. I guess they thought I was going to beat her up. She shouted over those or spoke over those teachers and said, I'm here because I love these kids.

00:08:56:21 - 00:09:10:25
Unknown
I said, Amy, I have no doubt about that. I'm here because I love them too. Only I'm going to stay here. I've moved my family here. I'm gonna be here long after you're gone. And the lies that you just told these kids are going to kill some of these kids. Sooner or later, it's going to catch up to them.

00:09:10:28 - 00:09:30:25
Unknown
I'm here to try to straighten that out, so I excused myself. Well, the next day. The following Sunday, I put on a signboard outside the church, the largest thoroughfare in that part of Houston. Thousands of cars go by every single day. I put on a signboard if you want to hear what the kids heard. It has come Sunday morning, Scotty.

00:09:30:25 - 00:09:51:24
Unknown
That was a greatest church growth strategy I've ever stumbled onto. I mean, it was bigger than Christmas or Easter. They all turned out and so. Well, when I heard that the auditorium was overflowing, I sent word out as well as some of our men, to stand around the back and give more seats to the visitors. The which they did in the meantime.

00:09:51:24 - 00:10:11:14
Unknown
I just had, you know, I had a 12 two page manuscript of the assembly. I was going to read the whole thing to our church congregation, but this was too great a chance for evangelism. So I pulled out a little revival sermon. I breathed the breath of life over it, prayed over it. I went out and I went to my time to speak to this packed house.

00:10:11:17 - 00:10:28:27
Unknown
I preached for about 15 minutes and gave an invitation and like every Sunday I was there. Just about people walked the aisle. In the meantime, all the cockeyed Baptist were looking to the watchers, and I thought I was going to speak about the Aids controversy. I sat them down, held up the 12 page manuscript. I said, folks, it's almost time to dismiss.

00:10:29:00 - 00:10:48:10
Unknown
We're gonna have a five minute break if you need to leave, you may. But those who say, I'm going to read this transcript, but let me forewarn you, you can hear your pastor say words you never thought it would come out of his lips. And if you're not prepared for that, maybe you need to be excused. We had preparations made for the young people over in the gym, and so I told them they could take the kids and drop them off if they wanted to.

00:10:48:12 - 00:11:07:17
Unknown
Five minutes later, we reconvene. We were still packed, and I read that transcript. Word for word, line for line, just like it was spoken at that high school assembly. It came off that tape I took with me and recorded the, our people got so riled over that they just couldn't believe the school they raised their kids in.

00:11:07:20 - 00:11:31:23
Unknown
Most of them had attended at some point, could possibly allow that kind of filth to go through. It's much like what we're finding in our, you know, in our elementary school libraries. Now, that's I'll be going from here to, to Midland to try to root that out in that in that school system where there's hundreds of books on the library shelves that are banned in our federal penitentiaries from inmates.

00:11:31:25 - 00:11:51:22
Unknown
Kids in elementary school today can read what inmates can't read because it's too dirty. That's another time for another interview, perhaps, and we'll find that all over Texas, all over the country, for that matter. But the point is, I read that transcript and it was hard reading it. I read because she didn't just talk in technical terms. She let the kids know.

00:11:51:22 - 00:12:13:20
Unknown
She knew what the real words were, and she interjected four letter words all through her conversation with her kids. By the time I finished, some of our people were so angry that I given them permission. They went over and burnt down the high school that day. I had one gentleman in particular that, had been a, star football player a few years before, and boy, he he was so mad about that.

00:12:13:22 - 00:12:29:28
Unknown
But I said, look, we're not going to do something like that tomorrow. I've requested an audience with the school board. And I said, excuse me. A week from tomorrow, I request an audience with the school board. And so we're going to wait. We're going to pray, and I'm going to invite you to go with me to the school board meeting.

00:12:30:00 - 00:12:49:25
Unknown
Well, I didn't know scholar that in the congregation. And I know I'm being lengthy here and here. I think it's good context. Oh, yeah. The, I had no idea that in the audience was a carnival. Our audience at the church was a carnival report. Who got wind of this controversy? I'd put that signboard, you know, the invitation to come.

00:12:49:25 - 00:13:09:04
Unknown
And so sitting there, taking notes all the time was a Chronicle reporter, the Houston Chronicle. The next day, I got a phone calls as early as six in the morning saying, pastor, you up? Just a word of wise to all the church people. Most pastors turn up at 6:00 Monday morning. They're recovering from Sunday. But I took the call.

00:13:09:07 - 00:13:32:13
Unknown
She said, have you? The person said, have you seen the Chronicle? I went out there and the whole metropolitan page. The second section of the paper was about the parent has, excuse me, pastor of First Baptist Church, Palin taking on Palin independent school system. And so I'm telling you, my phone began ringing off the wall from the national press in an interview, which I didn't take.

00:13:32:16 - 00:13:50:08
Unknown
We made arrangements for our children and we headed out, my wife and I to the Hill Country and stayed at the H-e-b Youth camp. We got permission and got to college and stayed there, and we prayed for the next five days. I'd been given five minutes to speak to the school board. Five minutes are is tough. You got to set a lot.

00:13:50:15 - 00:14:11:22
Unknown
You got to plan every word. And so I prayed over that. The only word I got from God during that week was a soft word turneth away wrath. I'm a hard preacher. Preach always have been. That was an evangelist for 14 years. So you know the kind of preaching I did the next Monday week following was the time for the school board meeting.

00:14:11:25 - 00:14:27:09
Unknown
When I got there, there was no place to park. I went to the hall. There was nobody there. I went to another place where they'd been and they weren't there. When did the third place, which was the high school gymnasium, the chairs put out, and they had about 6 or 700 people present for this school board meeting.

00:14:27:11 - 00:14:45:13
Unknown
A school board meeting will typically draw 3 or 4 in the audience will have something on the agenda that day. The whole our whole church just about showed up. I showed up, but they had scheduled five speakers ahead of me. They scheduled a couple of students that were going to tell what a terrible person the preacher was. I was trying to control the school.

00:14:45:16 - 00:15:04:05
Unknown
They scheduled a teacher to, and they also scheduled a pastor who'd been in the community about ten years already, pastor of First Assembly of God Church, and a man who later became a dear friend of mine. But he assumed that I was just a thunder maniac trying to take over the schools. And his remarks were all geared in that direction.

00:15:04:05 - 00:15:33:12
Unknown
And he, he, he, later conceded, confided in me. Had never even heard or read the Assembly. But he was there to protect these kids from the Baptist preacher. Well, when it came my turn to speak, I got up with a very soft tone, and I read my remarks, which I had prayed over and changed numerous times, and by the time I finished, I'd been interrupted 11 or 12 times by standing ovation because the community was on my side and there was no which was a side of morality.

00:15:33:15 - 00:15:54:26
Unknown
Some things just shouldn't be done. And they showed that. I also watch those school board members, their parents, too. And I watched their face turn from anger to softness to starting to ask me questions. I ended up standing there for about 20 minutes and answering their questions. And the bottom line is, everything changed that day. The preacher got involved.

00:15:54:28 - 00:16:14:19
Unknown
And, as a result of that, we had the privilege of putting people on a committee that rewrote the sex education curriculum. We bought $4,000 worth of books from focus on the family and others, and put them in the library about what biblical sex relationships were about. They dropped, they changed the sex education curriculum to where it was abstinence based.

00:16:14:21 - 00:16:33:15
Unknown
Remarkable changes. We began running our people for school board positions. And in two elections we own the school board. We had four members out of seven. Well, that also made a difference. Wow. Well, now people are coming to tell me about the corruption in City Hall. They know now they got a preacher in town that'll stand up for something.

00:16:33:17 - 00:16:52:22
Unknown
And I begin your incredible story. So I started going to the city council meetings. It, it the, there's I've written about this in the book, so I won't go into all the details, but there was corruption at the highest level in our community, apparently, and was surrounded by community that had grown and exploded. You could drive 50 miles north of Houston.

00:16:52:22 - 00:17:14:16
Unknown
Nothing but people 50 miles east, 50 miles west. But when you went south east where our church was, 12 miles from downtown, we still had cattle grazing in open spaces. We still had unfinished subdivisions where they laid out the roads. The city council changed the rules and drove the developers out because they wanted to be their land, their country town.

00:17:14:19 - 00:17:35:06
Unknown
And so, you know, revelation to me, the reason that the city was so backward and so beyond behind everything else in the metroplex of Houston was by the by design, a handful of school of city Council members were controlling everything. There were actually about 20 acres right in the heart of Pearland, where it was just vacant land.

00:17:35:06 - 00:17:54:10
Unknown
And you would ask yourself, why was such prime real estate be vacant? Well, it was vacant for a purpose. The, a couple of families own that land, and they wanted to raise their cattle and get the agricultural, dividend in taxes, and they weren't going to let any developer come in and change their little country town.

00:17:54:12 - 00:18:22:20
Unknown
Well, I began speaking, going to city council meetings, and we had a godly police chief. In fact, he was going around the community in other places, and the Christian music, he was a great musician. Name was Mike Hall. He's now deceased, but he joined our church shortly after because I began supporting him. Well, he started turning in reports about illegal meetings to the district attorney in our county, in fact, that they couldn't have a meeting of three people.

00:18:22:22 - 00:18:43:25
Unknown
There's only five in the city council, three couldn't meet without an announcement, but they were doing it all the time. So he started to report to the to the county, district attorney. Those three then demanded that the city manager fire the police chief. Well, city manager and I'd become close friends. He's a Christian. He joined my church.

00:18:43:27 - 00:19:07:06
Unknown
So when they started moving, pushing him to fire Mike Hall, he refused. So then they brought him up on charges. Were going to fire him. Our people started and started attending the city council meetings and hearing all this with me, and they met on Tuesday. Well, they suddenly announced city council meetings would meet on Wednesday. I preached on Wednesday so that when that change was made, I walked in the auditorium.

00:19:07:06 - 00:19:28:28
Unknown
I said, folks, city Council is now meeting Wednesday nights and I'm fixing to go to city Council. Rod's going to preach if you want to go with me. And if you want to hear rod preach, stay here. Well, all I'm with with me. And so and we walked just as they started the meeting with about 200 people. And I mean, they, you can just see the fallen, their faces turned ashen and their fallen countenance.

00:19:29:01 - 00:19:46:23
Unknown
We sat there and they started in on. They were going to fire the city manager, but they saw real quick that when the popular decision, because the people loved our city manager. And so they began talking among themselves. When it came time for question and answer, we started nailing them down. Why are you going to fire him? They wouldn't tell the city.

00:19:46:25 - 00:20:07:02
Unknown
The city, I should say the community. They were firing him because he was he wouldn't fire my call, and my call was telling the truth on them. So now we've got two city officials under fire. But the city council has been shown or revealed as wicked and I mean devious. The short of all this is in two more election cycles.

00:20:07:02 - 00:20:32:08
Unknown
We own the city council, my colleague and, and, the city manager, whose name was Paul Roman. They remain in place and were there when I left ten years later. But after those actions, our city was transformed. I mean, suddenly there were rational rules in place. Developers could risk making an investment and curbing and guttering, streets and suddenly has been springing up.

00:20:32:15 - 00:21:02:00
Unknown
If you go to Pendleton today for about ten years, it was the fastest growing suburb in Texas, 100,000. Today there's about 150,000 people live in Perry, and there was 19,000 in 1990 when I went there. But all that, because of Christian influence in politics, the people who followed Christ doing the right thing and managing the city well. And it's it's one of my former deacons that I laid hands on and set aside when he was 30 years old, is now the mayor of that city.

00:21:02:02 - 00:21:20:16
Unknown
I just recently went back to Perry Lane because I heard that in the school, these these filthy, these filthy books had invaded the public school. So I went in and, met with the school board, and we exposed about 46 books that need to be removed, and they immediately began removing them. Just because we said, hey, these books are on your library shelves.

00:21:20:23 - 00:21:40:04
Unknown
What if one of my associates, she's a member of my staff, she's a sweet, godly woman. She's been all over the state long before I put her on staff. We pay her a small salary, but she reads these books out loud. She's a grandmotherly type, soft spoken. And, I mean, these school board members will say, quit. We don't listen.

00:21:40:04 - 00:22:04:25
Unknown
That kind of stuff. Well, your kids are reading it, and and they're spreading all through the school. And so we're getting we're getting these books pulled down, school by school, by school, by simply confronting this. The district officials, that's what Christians have got to do. We sit back and do nothing. We have the country we're living in filthy and and, chasten have came decide what a woman is.

00:22:05:01 - 00:22:22:20
Unknown
Supreme Court sitting justice who can't define what a woman is. When she was asked in our interview, she said, I don't know. No. It's an amazing thing when somebody can reach the Supreme Court and not know what a man or a woman is. I tell people, you can tell if it's a man right away. Just look in the genes.

00:22:22:26 - 00:22:54:01
Unknown
Yep. That's what's powerful. I mean, what's what's the first off disappointing is I believe a lot of what we have to do in our country, right, stemmed from the lack of leadership. And men, actually, men, men and women who actually stand when they've seen these things happen. So what happened, I'm sure, in other cities, is, as this, woke, ideology was getting pushed forward, there weren't people taking a stand and pushing back at the level that that you were.

00:22:54:04 - 00:23:21:02
Unknown
And so and again, it's more than just pushing back, maybe just verbally, but it's strategic push back. Right? It's it's getting involved with the city. It's getting involved at a local level politically. It's so these things and so we are where we're at is because we didn't have someone that took a stand. And so I think it's for people listening to this podcast, why I was so interested in intrigued to have Rick on here is I really believe that Christians should be involved politically.

00:23:21:02 - 00:23:43:04
Unknown
I believe that it is a, core part of our responsibility, even if it's, you don't have to necessarily be elected into a position. However, are you supporting, you know, and are you supporting the politicians that are pushing forward a Christ like agenda? Yeah. Satan hates this country. He hates what it stands for. So he's trying to rewrite our history.

00:23:43:06 - 00:24:08:09
Unknown
He's trying to to take men and turn them into women. The feminization of of of the culture is been incredible to watch. And you scratch your head and you say, where or where are the real men? And I've got good news. We're finding them. There are real men out there. And those who are listening, I encourage you, get involved in Rise Up Kings, because this is a ministry devoted to making it, to teaching how to be a manly man.

00:24:08:16 - 00:24:26:27
Unknown
And that's what's lacking in our culture. In the middle of prayer land where those cattle grazing this time 20 years ago, is now the new First Baptist Church, we relocated on to 12 acres of that. I actually got 20 and sold the fridge after to Kroger and and got our return on our money. That whole area has been developed now.

00:24:26:27 - 00:24:53:02
Unknown
And as I said, the city on the is on the the census since the sign went from 19,000. Last time I checked it was like 120,000, and there's about 150,000 actually living in the in person. That happened because godly men and women got involved and took the stand for Christ. What are some ways that talk about, man, I have so many questions around this.

00:24:53:04 - 00:25:19:17
Unknown
I appreciate your, your bluntness around these topics, too. I think a lot of people can skirt around here now. We're seeing a shift. We're seeing a shift. Culturally. It's pretty wild, actually, on that. No. Why do you think we were able to shift so quick? Meaning, woke ideology. Wokeism is really being pushed back on so hard now versus it was just, free for all for the last, probably ten ish years.

00:25:19:18 - 00:25:45:23
Unknown
I think the primary reason is because we finally had a man run for president with guts enough to confront it. I I've often said I don't like everything that that Donald Trump says, but I love what he does. And so I got I got on the wagon for him. The last time around. And after putting the wrong people on his on his team and being so, destroyed by the press, he wised up in the last four years.

00:25:45:23 - 00:26:05:10
Unknown
And this second time around, he surround himself by people who do something. And many of us know. And I'm telling you, you may not like the way he behaves. You may not like some of his mannerisms, but if you look and see what he's doing, he's confronted his stuff head on. And with God's help, a lot of Christians now are getting their their, their courage because of him.

00:26:05:17 - 00:26:28:22
Unknown
And they're standing in the gap. And then there are people like J.C. church who works with you and others who for the last 20 years of their life has been pouring this information, the righteous information in the in the men that they're teaching and training our own ministry. And for I was in Berlin from 1990 to 2002, Jerry Falwell heard what I was doing and started taking me all over the country and give me three minutes everywhere.

00:26:28:22 - 00:26:58:09
Unknown
He spoke and said, here's a guy that's doing it like it ought to be done. And it gave me a lot of, of, of, frontline, exposure. Christiane Amanpour with her camera crew showed up to Berlin, and while I was still there, they did a documentary called entitled God's Warriors, intending to tear me down. They just told millions of people across the country that there was a preacher somewhere doing something Dr. James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell, and these guys all came together and built me up.

00:26:58:12 - 00:27:27:13
Unknown
Board of advisors, Adrian Rogers, and, David, Oh, it's hard to remember now all the names, but about ten men who had lots of visibility and lined up and became my board of advisors. And what they did was give me greater exposure in comes Andrea Pelosi with her camera crew, Nancy Pelosi's daughter, I found out later, but she came in sponsored by HBO, to do another documentary called, the the, what did she name hers?

00:27:27:14 - 00:27:48:14
Unknown
One was God's Warriors, and the other was, I can't remember the title. It's been 20 years ago, but she put that one on HBO and was aired numerous times, and all it did is sure the enemy got more angry every day. And, I mean, they were coming after me, and the press was frying me, in the frying pan.

00:27:48:16 - 00:28:09:06
Unknown
But godly people who could see through that, who could discern what was happening, started flocking to us. And so we we gave birth to a ministry, became a national ministry. Almost overnight, we started adding, pastors through training, by the thousands. I started traveling all over the country. I'd get a phone call from somebody and I said, can you come to North North Carolina?

00:28:09:08 - 00:28:34:23
Unknown
This election cycle, we'll put up $200,000. If you'll come mobilize pastors. I'd get there. And while I was there, they'd call me and say, need more money? And that money was not an object to even raise because there were entrepreneurs and godly men in positions of wealth that wanted to see their state changed. And they understood, as I still absolutely know, the only hope for this country is for the pastors to stand in the gap and not be ashamed.

00:28:34:27 - 00:28:50:29
Unknown
And they've got to be. They've got to be undergirded and surrounded by godly men who are entrepreneurs who will hold their arms up and provide the means for them to speak out and, and stand up for me in their church when some ungodly leader in the church begins to attack from the inside. And that's going to happen.

00:28:50:29 - 00:29:13:10
Unknown
We teach the pastors that, believe me, in our church, it happened. A lot of people didn't want their pastors name in the Chronicle every Sunday. And so, I went to the front pages of the Washington Post, on, on the, on mothers on the Mother's Day issue on a Sunday morning, a man name above the fold. And it was all about this, this new Jerry Falwell without, getting pastors involved.

00:29:13:10 - 00:29:28:20
Unknown
I've got it framed and on the wall, what Satan meant for evil, God meant for good. So the exposure came as we stood up. And I tell pastors that I say you can expect to be attacked and it won't be pleasant, but if you got the guts to get out there, God will come with you. What would you say?

00:29:28:20 - 00:29:54:13
Unknown
And I'm sure you're familiar with our ministry revival, which is for pastors, right? And so we we help fund pastors stepping into that next level of masculinity, of power, of strength, of godliness, of freedom. Like we're supporting paths like we do with men. We're supporting pastors on really being willing to take a stand as long as they are, theologically and ideologically, like, aligned.

00:29:54:16 - 00:30:11:03
Unknown
They don't have to be, but they end up the guys that end up coming through our events. They are they want to see our country change. And so we know we've given them a pathway to to do that at a much quicker level. So what would you say, for men listening to this podcast, what are some ways that guys can get involved and what would their path be?

00:30:11:03 - 00:30:32:25
Unknown
So let's say we're we have an entrepreneur on the podcast and he's got his he's got his business. He's cruising around, he's taking care of his team members. What what should he be doing? He should be using everything he has to advance the kingdom of God. God didn't call us to be wealthy. You can call us here to be known for our great entrepreneurial skills.

00:30:33:02 - 00:30:53:19
Unknown
He gives those gifts to men so that they can then take those gifts and advance the kingdom. And, I would say to pastors listening what I think about what you guys are doing up here. I'm 75 years old, and I drove 350 miles to just do this podcast because I believe in what you're doing. And, and, there are others out there that I'm aware of that are doing similar things.

00:30:53:21 - 00:31:14:22
Unknown
Well, we need now to work at connecting all the dots and bring everybody together so that our force multiplier, there are people in America right now that understand we have a window of opportunity. Donald Trump stepped up to the plate, got shot almost in the head. Missed him by just inches. Another assassin. They call with a rifle, prepared to kill him.

00:31:14:24 - 00:31:32:03
Unknown
He's withstood all of that. He now understands that he's been spared by God for a purpose. And I know people who are close to him who will testify to that. Well, God has given us that window. We've got to walk through it. The the hope for America now is for the church to rise up and be the church.

00:31:32:10 - 00:31:55:21
Unknown
And it'll be determined over the next two years what we do in the next election cycle. And standing in the gap that has been provided for us by the almost death of all of our president. So back to back to, entrepreneurs. So utilizing their resources, right, to become more, for the kingdom, and then what are some ways politically.

00:31:55:21 - 00:32:20:24
Unknown
So, you're just that was a beautiful story of you getting involved with, with the school board, and even attending some of the assemblies. So what would you say if they want to see, their state change in their local community change where they get started, started the school board. The school board has more influence than about any elected office, because they're right there, directly involved with the direction of our children.

00:32:20:27 - 00:32:41:01
Unknown
And they're either going to that school board is going to lead those kids down a path of destruction by their neglect, often, often in school board members, that they're in that position because they love their kids, but they don't pay any attention to it. They hand it off to the principal. Principal is off to, to a, conference of some sort, comes back of a crazy idea and begins implementing it.

00:32:41:03 - 00:32:58:23
Unknown
And the school board doesn't stop it. We need godly men and godly member for that matter. Running for school board, running for city council. That's the training ground for other offices. And then from there making, once they are made known to be faithful, their groups, like man, will come along and support them as they run for our office.

00:32:58:23 - 00:33:25:01
Unknown
We need godly men in Texas right now. I'm feeling, state the state, House of Representatives is still kind of a marginal thing. The governor got involved and got 12 of the of the rhinos removed in the last election cycle. Just by lending his name and influence and finances and has made a difference. So we're getting godly education, or I should say, godly legislation through that, we couldn't get the last three election cycles.

00:33:25:04 - 00:33:52:23
Unknown
But that's not where it stops as God begins to give you, the training and the understanding how politics work. Then you work your way up to the ladder. I, I spent two years in Washington, DC doing Bible studies with members of Congress just four years ago, during Covid. During that time, I was in Washington and meeting with, legislators in Bible studies, and, we had, personal, once a month meeting with, that was the president of the world Bank under Trump.

00:33:53:00 - 00:34:17:01
Unknown
We were up there, discipling members of, of, the, the Senate House and also, several in the Pentagon. You could tell some wonderful stories about what God did among leaders in the Pentagon and some experiences we had there. The fact of the matter is, anything you give to God, he'll give back 100 fold. He'll give leadership skills back 100 fold.

00:34:17:03 - 00:34:32:23
Unknown
Most of us don't do anything because we think we're not capable. But there's a verse in the Bible I remind myself of. Often when they deliver, you obtain no thought. How or what you shall speak for will be given you in that hour. What you shall speak for is not you that speaks, but the Holy Spirit that speaks through you.

00:34:32:26 - 00:34:51:21
Unknown
I find myself remembering verses I'm memorized as a child. When a confrontation comes, I go into it. That terror struck, and sometimes it is terror struck. Sometimes because I fear I'm going to fail. But God always shows up. If you show up, you don't show up. He has no need to show up. So God's looking for men who are ready.

00:34:51:24 - 00:35:16:06
Unknown
Yeah. Who put their life on the line and their reputation on the line in faith that God will stand with them. So good. We, Yeah. I'm, I'm mentoring my nephew right now, a great kid, and he's 20 years old. And there is a, I'm noticing that generation. They're a little lost on what direction to go and even what value system that they would want to adhere to.

00:35:16:08 - 00:35:44:26
Unknown
You know, like what, Val, where do we get our values from there? Their, oh, typically where they're getting their values from are social media influencers. It's no longer athletes, right? It's no longer typically it was athletes back in the day and now it's influencers. They want to go follow influencers. And so I think what we should be doing, what I believe we should be doing as Christians who really care about our country, is get involved not only politically but in, in, in positions of power.

00:35:44:26 - 00:36:02:27
Unknown
Right. Politics is a position of power. Being an influencer, being an entrepreneur, being a business owner, being involved in the community, like, these are all positions of power that that I don't I don't think our aim should be two to what? Actually, no. Yeah. I believe our aim, if our aim is right, not for our own good, but for God's good.

00:36:02:27 - 00:36:28:08
Unknown
If our aim is if our aim is, genuine in that respect that I think that would be those would be worthy positions for Christians to uphold. Yeah. We talked about the seven. Is that the seven mountains of influence? Yep yep yep. Scott. Right. I mentioned starting at the lowest rank. But there are men who are prepared already that God has already prepared through other experience that are capable right now running for the state legislature or even the national scene.

00:36:28:13 - 00:36:51:21
Unknown
And we've got to find those men and get behind those men and empower them, pray for them and get the vote out format. That's what my ministry is about. I we've we have transformed not we. God working through us has seen the transformation of a number of states across the country because people gave us some money, said Will you take what you didn't pay and and duplicate that?

00:36:51:21 - 00:37:09:07
Unknown
The first one and the first example was while I was still a pastor, and I got a phone call one day from men I'd never heard of before. A doctor over in San Antonio who turned out to be quite wealthy. He said, Rick, could you do in Texas what you did in Berlin? So I had the right resources I could yes, sir.

00:37:09:09 - 00:37:31:29
Unknown
And so he said, I'll give you a I'll give you 200. I'll give you a million point to if you'll transform Texas, which he gave me. Finally a hundred thousand. And, a couple of others ponied up the rest of it. But we started meeting in groups of, of 100 to 200 pastors in different communities. That was when Rick Perry was running for his first term as governor.

00:37:31:29 - 00:37:52:02
Unknown
He was already in the office because, because Bush had moved out for president. So he had two years experience. But he traveled around this state and we we had about 30 meetings of pastors around the state of Texas. By the time we were we had ended, we had 400 pastors who had signed the dotted line that they would register people to vote, mobilize their people to vote.

00:37:52:04 - 00:38:15:16
Unknown
And Rick Perry was elected by a landslide. Christians can change America if Christians show up. The, this this lie that we shouldn't be involved in politics, I ask him. Well, if not you, who? And, being involved every every single person. The Old Testament of any notoriety was involved in politics in the New Testament. Almost all of the men were involved in politics.

00:38:15:16 - 00:38:35:04
Unknown
Give some give us some examples of that. Well, for instance, John the Baptist, of whom Jesus said, there's never been a greater man born of woman, confronted Herod and said, you're living with your brother's wife. He got his head cut off for it. But he was involved in politics. And as I tell pastors, you may get your head cut off, but that's not an excuse to stay on the sidelines.

00:38:35:11 - 00:39:03:24
Unknown
Jeremiah. My word. Look at all the men that God raised up like Daniel, to influence the entire lost kingdoms that they were a part of. The Bible says in Jeremiah that if wherever you are, where you plant yourself, transform that place, and it will be better for you, even though you're in captivity. So you're always you're doing this for God, but you reap the benefits, apparently, and became a very well it became the place for people to live.

00:39:04:00 - 00:39:27:24
Unknown
Once the politics were straightened out and they were straightened out when Christians got involved. It's great. Yeah. I'm thinking of, of a story, with Joseph when he was Pharaoh's right example. Yep. Pharaoh's right hand person. And so what ended up happening is there was like the, the, the Israel, the, their entire right because they moved it was a Goshen.

00:39:27:24 - 00:39:42:21
Unknown
Yeah. They went up to Goshen. Right. And then they grew to millions. I think it was about 3 million. Yeah, right. In that range. And so what happened though. So that was with Joseph, right. Being in that right hand. Position of power. And so what it ended up happening is as soon as Joseph passed and then a new that pharaoh passed.

00:39:42:21 - 00:40:04:01
Unknown
Also, there's a verse that says that the pharaoh did the new pharaoh didn't know, or that the Pharaoh saw the Israelites as, threats. Correct? Right. And then ended up turning them into slaves. And so it was the whole. So there was no representation. So what I realized from that, as I was reading that a couple months ago, was the Israelites.

00:40:04:01 - 00:40:28:07
Unknown
They didn't have any representation, at all. So, Joseph was their representation, right? And so they had no representation. And so once the representation was gone, that's where they were really up to the whim of Pharaoh. And so, like Christians, we need representation all across the country and in every major, every major area. We need to have representation.

00:40:28:13 - 00:40:53:04
Unknown
Scholar. Let me connect some dots for you, for your listeners name. Why would we take the time to groom children to to be sexualized so that they're ashamed of nothing? They have no conscience. We're grooming a generation to be, they're the survivors of the abortion holocaust. Satan has determined the way to take down this country is to is to kill off the Christian community.

00:40:53:10 - 00:41:15:19
Unknown
So we abort 63 million. There are survivors of abortions, so we sexualize them so that nothing's right or wrong. So then they can be swayed into any kind of immoral lifestyle imaginable. The only hope for this whole thing to be cut off is for those of us who understand the truth, to take the risk to get out there and stop the sexualization of our children.

00:41:15:22 - 00:41:45:25
Unknown
Find out what's in the library, the books that they can read. You'll be shocked by what you find. Call my office and I'll send you copies of them. I've got these books in my office. But. But we've got to get it stopped and turn this whole thing around in incredible strategies Satan uses. So if he can right the sexualization of America, if he can get, somebody in, living in an immoral lifestyle, they then are going to vote in alignment with that lifestyle, which is real interesting.

00:41:45:25 - 00:42:09:18
Unknown
Right? So if you can that we have a, I have a, one of our team members from a previous company that we had sold, she her daughter was, bisexual. And so because of that, she basically almost was forced, she thinks, to make all decisions. And now to vote in alignment with what would protect her daughter, which is voting on the left.

00:42:09:20 - 00:42:37:28
Unknown
And so she went full left because of the immoral lifestyle. And so that one strategy, if we if seeking can get somebody living in a moral lifestyle, choosing an immoral, yeah, way to operate, then people, for their own safety and protection are going to choose are going to vote in alignment with that to protect themselves. And so instead of saying, hey, you know, vote conservative or, or be a Christian, if you can get us to veer off, we'll then, then choose the opposite.

00:42:37:28 - 00:42:58:15
Unknown
So it's a really an amazing, as I'm processing it, an amazing strategy, sexualizing our culture. So then people will vote. Yeah, yeah. And justify their behavior. Yeah, yeah. If nothing's wrong. Yeah. Then you can do anything you want. And what do you want to do. You want to. Everyone has a carnal nature. If it's not subdued by the cross.

00:42:58:17 - 00:43:26:08
Unknown
And so that carnal nature takes over and there's no way to say it's wrong. And so off they go. And and what, what satisfies today doesn't satisfy tomorrow. So they're always going further down that track, further down that track until they can't find it. They get to a place where they don't think they can never turn back. And the good news is, there is never a place where you can't turn back because of the grace of Almighty God in the blood of Jesus that cancels all sin when applied in.

00:43:26:10 - 00:43:50:19
Unknown
Another thing you'll find of interest, I think after traveling around the country and preaching to thousands of persons in these conferences where I've spoken about six months ago, I was I was invited to join a team of called Remnant Alliance, and on the first trip out, they gave me a three minutes, four minute speaking time. And then the next time they gave me the primary time to speak to pastors.

00:43:50:27 - 00:44:15:04
Unknown
And so I started speaking to hundreds of pastors under that umbrella. But it never occurred to me one time to give an invitation. We'd preach and say, God bless you, signed the card and join us. So one day I got overwhelmed with guilt. The Bible says many will come in my name saying, Lord, Lord, we not preached in your name, in your name, cast out demons in our name, done many wonderful works and you'll say to them, depart from me, I never knew you.

00:44:15:07 - 00:44:34:13
Unknown
That clearly tells us that pastors can be lost. So the very next time we met with a small group, AG gave a gospel invitation at the end of it, and we had a couple of pastors give it a heart to Jesus. That's good. We have not had but two events since then that we haven't seen a pastor or one of our invited guest give their heart to Jesus.

00:44:34:15 - 00:44:59:12
Unknown
And I'm now right back where I started 40 years ago. I'm an evangelist. We're not just rallying the pastors, but we're calling them to a commitment to Christ because it's very possible men can get involved in ministry without ever being saved. Hermanas. Yeah, Rick. That's a beautiful, thing. We actually, we started doing baptisms at our events.

00:44:59:14 - 00:45:24:19
Unknown
Rock 11, we're at Rock 57. We just completed the last week of our business owner event. Our CEO's founders. And so we started doing baptisms. And every event we have usually about 4 to 11 baptisms. And these are guys coming to a Christian event, right? They're coming to a faith based Christian, foundationally Christian event through our through local, through the core, through, at a just deep level.

00:45:24:19 - 00:45:44:03
Unknown
And they are, man, they are. It's convicting them in such a powerful way where they're they want to know for 100% certainty that they are saved. The reason the church is in the mess it's in is because the pastor in the mess they're in get the pastor straightened out. They'll start preaching the gospel in these laymen. Well, we'll have a different sense of conviction.

00:45:44:10 - 00:46:07:03
Unknown
Even the normal routine Sunday morning preaching. Everybody has to be saved. Yeah, everyone has a point in their life when they choose Jesus. He won't force you to go to heaven, but he'll sure receive you if you turn to him. And hence our listening audience. You have to wonder how many right now driving a car are maybe sitting in a cool place, enjoying the information.

00:46:07:09 - 00:46:23:23
Unknown
But do you know if you're saved, can you honestly say if I stood before God tonight and he would ask me, why should I listen to heaven? That you have the right answer? I found Skyler when I and I asked people that question in the marketplace. 90% of the people I asked that question will say, well, I'm trying to live a good life.

00:46:23:28 - 00:46:43:15
Unknown
I go to church, I pay my tithes. I'm I'm doing the best I can. I keep the commandments and I say to them, you know, that's a good answer. And I hear it often, but if heaven could be, if you could enter into heaven based upon the things you've done, then heaven would be just like earth, full of egomaniacs, points thumping their chest, saying, look at my mansion.

00:46:43:20 - 00:47:03:17
Unknown
I got here because I did so many good works on earth. In fact, heaven will be just the opposite of that. It will be full of people falling on their face and pointing to Jesus and saying, I'm here only because of him. I'm here because I chose him and he chose me. And if you're listening and you've never made that commitment, what better time than right now?

00:47:03:19 - 00:47:24:27
Unknown
Just pull car over, find a good place and say, Lord Jesus, I'm tired of playing games, I choose you, I turn from my sin. Come into my heart, Lord Jesus, and make me the person you want me to be. And I'll promise you I've never met a man who prayed that prayer in sincerity that didn't see his life get changed.

00:47:24:29 - 00:47:42:01
Unknown
Hopefully they're doing that right now. And amen to that. And by the way, yeah, let this ministry know that you did it. Yeah. Respond to the information at the end of the podcast, and we'll send you out. I'll speak on your behalf. Yeah, yeah, you'll send Bible in materials. I'm sure you will. If you don't, I will.

00:47:42:04 - 00:48:05:16
Unknown
Yeah. No. We give a Bible out at every one of our events. Wonderful. Yes. Yes. Beautiful. All right. What's, what's next for you on your. You've been making a huge impact. I'm curious what, what's your top priority? Top project? Right now? We've got several of our own, upcoming events where we're going to take a 100, 200, 200 pastors off, put them through that intensive training for three days.

00:48:05:19 - 00:48:23:00
Unknown
And then my part of that is to give the last message. I give a tell the story of what happened in Berlin, challenge him to do the same thing wherever they go. Having the pastor become the light, the beacon stand up against the evil in your community, and then we give them a chance to give their heart to Christ, which we didn't used to do.

00:48:23:02 - 00:48:44:28
Unknown
Have. We had several shows coming up soon and, anytime I want to, I can go to a school board meeting and I'll guarantee 99% of them have books on their shelves, with immoral books in it. I'm going to Midland tomorrow. I do that very thing to them. And by the way, in that community, the, well, we tried to go about a year ago and one of the local pastors told me pastored a large church.

00:48:44:28 - 00:49:08:13
Unknown
He said, we don't need your ministry to all the board, all the school board goes to our churches. We know they're good people. And yet we've done the undercover work and found hundreds of books on the library shelves of those schools in the Midland Independent School District that you can't read in prison. And so it just shows you that many of these men, good men, are asleep at the wheel, and we're trying to wake them up.

00:49:08:15 - 00:49:26:21
Unknown
How can people best support you or find you, go to Recover America? That's our website. And, you'll find all kind of information. We love to hear from you. Be glad to come to your community and look in the library and see what's happening. So good. All right, well, Rick, I appreciate you coming out.

00:49:26:21 - 00:49:52:26
Unknown
I look forward to connecting after this podcast. And I appreciate the wisdom. And I hope that man take this serious. And really, not just have it be another piece of good information that they learn, but where they actually take action and do something even this week that they're listening to this podcast. What can you do this week to get involved at some level, maybe it's looking up some of the local, assemblies that are happening and popping in on one or choosing who, what side you stand on, right.

00:49:52:26 - 00:50:14:12
Unknown
And getting clear on what, what or you have what side you stand on and who you're going to, support, during some of your local elections, too. So, Rick. My pleasure. Thank you. Scott. Or your reputation precedes you. It is a wonder I was gratified to meet you, but because of my friend Jesse, I'd already heard about the good work you're doing.

00:50:14:12 - 00:50:15:25
Unknown
So. God bless. Thank you.