The Rise Up Kings Podcast with Skylar Lewis
Skylar Lewis, the founder of Rise Up Kings in Dallas Texas is a successful entrepreneur who has scaled and systemized multiple million-dollar companies. He is a speaker, an author, and runs a world-class faith-based business intensive for men. On his journey to prosperity, he has found that the key to fulfillment and top performance comes through focusing on the 4 Pillars of Purpose; Faith, Family, Fitness, and Finance. On this podcast, he interviews experts from all over the country by diving deep into what the 4 Pillars are and refining what it means to reach your God-given potential. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review!
The Rise Up Kings Podcast with Skylar Lewis
Burnout, Conflict, Self-Sabotage—What's Actually Causing It?
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Christian men, masculinity, leadership, humility, ego, insecurity, confidence, identity in Christ. This episode exposes the “hidden problem” behind burnout, conflict, and self-sabotage (masked as success).
Most guys don’t realize the real issue isn’t anger, ambition, or even performance; it’s what’s operating beneath the surface. We unpack how ego shows up in leadership, marriage, and brotherhood, why “false humility” is still self-focused, and how to build grounded confidence without posturing.
You’ll hear:
- How unspoken expectations turn into resentment
- When leaders must be curious vs. certain
- Why insecurity fuels the hidden problem
- The simplest way to receive compliments with strength (“Thank you”)
- How training, discipline, and keeping your word rebuild self-esteem
- Why Scripture is the higher source of truth when “groupthink” feels right
If you want to lead your home, your business, and your body with conviction—without being driven by the hidden problem—this conversation will challenge you and sharpen you.
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00;00;00;01 - 00;00;21;03 Unknown The first sin. The first sin, like, literally. Why? Hell was created was a home for Lucifer. Unspoken expectations are premeditated resentments. Ego was a thing for me. I allowed my ego to take the reins of my life for a long time. The idea that I could run past this dude and he would know that I'm better than him. 00;00;21;04 - 00;00;41;28 Unknown The energy was actually almost always ego. And pride comes from a place of insecurity. If you keep going past a contrite heart, you end up in some sort of barren territory of worthlessness. If you celebrate a win, what is that win? Can you have a win without feeling that insidious ego of mine would push me to do a great big things, and then I killed it. 00;00;42;00 - 00;01;07;11 Unknown I thought I killed the man who is right until it's not. All right. Welcome to the coach's podcast. We got some fire that our coaches are going to be, dropping. Jeremy's got a quote to start us out. Yeah, it's, unity in the essentials, diversity in the non-essentials, and love above all else. What does that mean to you? 00;01;07;14 - 00;01;09;24 Unknown Well. 00;01;09;26 - 00;01;47;06 Unknown Yeah, there are some things that are non-negotiable, right? There's in, in, in Christianity, we have an orthodoxy. We have a left and right limit of what's except like it is a non-negotiable that Christ is. God came down in human form, took our sins, died on the cross three days later, rose again. These are non-negotiables. But there's some there's some room for, like diversity of opinion, like it is a baptism only effective when you sprinkle a baby? 00;01;47;06 - 00;02;08;17 Unknown Or must you be an adult and be completely submerged? There's some room for some, some give and some opinion, and there's in other things there. There isn't any room at all. There's no there's no gift. This is a this is a must have. There's yeah, there's in the essentials. We must have unity in the non-essentials. We can have diversity of thought, diversity of opinion. 00;02;08;20 - 00;02;31;21 Unknown And then either way though, what trumps all of it is love. Love above all else. So even the way in which we we discuss those things must happen in a way of love. Yeah. I love the, the breakdown. So you have Orthodoxy, right? Then you have doctrine. So orthodoxies, like, hey, this is what we believe in. Doctrine. 00;02;31;23 - 00;02;52;01 Unknown There's a lot of different doctrines. Right? And so there's some flexibility there in what people believe. And then you have opinion. So Orthodoxy, right? Christ is king, right? He is God. Right. So it's so it's an orthodoxy. And so then you have doctrine, which would be an example of, a kind of baptism or like you're talking about. 00;02;52;04 - 00;03;11;26 Unknown Yeah. And then there's opinion. And so I think as Christians, we get too stuck on fighting out the opinion and even sometimes fighting out doctrinal issues when we when we all come together on the central orthodoxy of the Christian faith. And so when people get stuck in their certainty. Yeah, this is really, really interesting, at least concept for me. 00;03;11;29 - 00;03;34;03 Unknown Some of the most valuable feedback I've ever gotten in my life. Someone approached me and said, you know, you seem really certain. Always like I'm always certain way this person experience me is I was always certain about everything. And then it just rocked me. Is that isn't that isn't at all who I actually want to be. I want to be curious. 00;03;34;03 - 00;03;55;14 Unknown I want to be engaged. I want to be connected. I want to learn. I say I am all these things. And yet the way this person was experiencing me was certain always about everything. And so on that note, though, like some of the best leaders are also very certain leaders. So certainty is a really important part of leadership. 00;03;55;16 - 00;04;17;15 Unknown And but there's, there's, there's a dichotomy there with certainty and curiosity and which can sometimes even play in the humility. And so how do you display that or how do you be, humble. And so let's talk about that for a moment. So should a leader be more certain or more curious? I'll jump on that. All of that. 00;04;17;15 - 00;04;45;04 Unknown So I would say there's a time for both. So when you're formulating your plan, curiosity is going to serve you really well. When you're when you're brainstorming, when you're coming up with like what? What course of action am I going to take? Curiosity, especially curiosity amongst a team of peers that you respect their opinions, whether that team or people that work for you or you're part of the team that will serve you very well. 00;04;45;06 - 00;05;09;07 Unknown However, the moment it comes into implementation, certainty rules. So any questions I've had, because I may come up with my game plan and I have a little bit of question in the background like, hey, I'm 90% sure this is the direction we're going to go, but when I unveil that to the team, I have to be all in like, this is exactly what we're doing and we're going all in on it until we change our minds and go in another direction. 00;05;09;07 - 00;05;43;26 Unknown But it's very, very important for the team to fall behind you to have that certainty. I can viscerally, viscerally feel what you're talking about there. There's like just like operationally, it having a leader when we're building a plan get really curious and like, I, I've experienced leaders that have been so effective at this where we're sitting in a room planning a mission, and they're asking questions in a very curious, and you're experiencing them in a very open way that's very flowy and like and up there absorbing things almost like a dry sponge that are absorbing, absorbing. 00;05;44;02 - 00;06;01;29 Unknown And then we formulate the plan. The plan comes into being. And now it becomes time to execute on the plan. And that person turns into a different human being. And now it is a high degree of execution, a high degree of decisiveness, a high degree of intentionality that shows up, and there's very little room for for questions or curiosity. 00;06;01;29 - 00;06;20;24 Unknown And inside the space, even operationally, though, there'll be things that need to get answered. So they'll ask questions only for data. It's only the down. There's the exploration time is over, and it's only the time to execute now. And so they're looking for data in those times, not opinion. And I think that's interesting what you were talking about. 00;06;20;26 - 00;06;45;29 Unknown Like the idea of how these concepts play in with one another, the idea of humility being added to this of like, is it there's a self-awareness or something aspect that goes into that of me paying attention to how I'm occurring on the Earth, and if I'm not paying attention, then I this is what the feedback I got from this person that was like this, this awareness came to being in me. 00;06;46;02 - 00;07;19;02 Unknown I'm not paying attention to how I'm showing up. I'm showing up as the decisive executer of things when I in times where I should be the the curious dry sponge version of me and I'm getting it kind of twisted. So yeah, I mean I feel it. I could if I could give a really good tangible example of that, which I think will land well for you is like rudimentary for example, if you had four special operations operators from different services talking about the best way to take down a room at a training day, you're going to be there a long time. 00;07;19;02 - 00;07;41;18 Unknown Yep. Because they all have their opinions. They all have their own missions, their own experiences, and they can argue about how four guys can take one room for hours, right? Being even being curious, a little bit of argument, a little pushback. And that's a conversation that will go on until you end it. However, as soon as one of them is designated as who's running this operation? 00;07;41;18 - 00;07;57;19 Unknown And they say we're going to now we're going into implementation phase, it's decided like that, and everyone comes and everyone comes into alignment with a high degree of precision. And I and I understand that you and I may have differences on how we take this room down, but if you're running this and I'm following you, we're all in and we're going to do it your way. 00;07;57;22 - 00;08;17;09 Unknown And that is very effective 100%. And I find this conversation very interesting, because I do believe that everything that's been said is like right on, spot on. And there's a concept called groupthink that I think throws a grenade into this conversation. And it is man, like, you're right until you're not. 00;08;17;12 - 00;08;43;12 Unknown You're right until you're not. And a prime example of this is when everyone believed that the world was flat. Everybody was right. The world is flat. The world is flat until you're not. And then we discover that the world is actually round. And with this concept of groupthink, that it begs the question, even though I'm exploring, even though I'm open and as a leader, I'm inviting these conversations and I'm getting perspective. 00;08;43;15 - 00;09;06;04 Unknown How do we know we're on track? How do we know that we're headed in the right direction? How do we know that we're. When I make a decision that we're moving in the right direction, even though we're in agreement, right. And to me, it begs the question, is there a higher source of accuracy? Is there a higher source of truth that we have to yield to despite our own thoughts? 00;09;06;07 - 00;09;33;20 Unknown Because a man's way is right until it's not? So with that, what I'm what I'm leading to here is what is that source of truth? What is that higher measure that we all have to yield to in such a way to be able to make accurate decisions and move forward? And to me, as simple as the word. So when you're talking about being decisive, when you're talking about being clear on non-negotiables, that to me is a non-negotiable right into the world. 00;09;33;20 - 00;09;49;24 Unknown That could be controversial because it's like, well, you're not open minded if you believe the Bible is the only way, if you believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven, and that's the only way to get saved and spend eternity in heaven, then how are you being open minded? So so these these questions come up for me in this conversation. 00;09;49;27 - 00;10;16;15 Unknown And part of that is how do we know? Right. So I think the open mindedness of looking at the word and saying, like, is this really the truth? Not just truth, but the truth. And when you look at the prophecies, the number of prophecies that were prophesied about Jesus before he came, man, there's hundreds of prophecies that were spoken about him before he ever stepped foot on the earth, and every single one of them was fulfilled. 00;10;16;18 - 00;10;32;28 Unknown And I heard this illustration that if you were to take the state of Texas and fill it with quarters about waist high, and the entire state of Texas is filled with quarters, and you took one red quarter, you colored it and you flipped it anywhere you want in the state of Texas. And then you got somebody got in a helicopter and you were flying over the state of Texas. 00;10;32;28 - 00;10;58;11 Unknown You get to go and choose one quarter, one. The likelihood of every single prophecy that was spoken over Jesus Christ being fulfilled is the same as someone getting into a helicopter and flying over the entire state of Texas and going down and picking out that one quarter blindfolded. That is the truth. So when we're talking about yielding like that is a non-negotiable for me, that Jesus Christ was sent to the earth. 00;10;58;11 - 00;11;23;10 Unknown He lived here 33.5 years. He was born a virgin birth. He died on the cross. He rose after the third day, proving that he is the Son of God and offering the gift of salvation for anyone who repent and give their life to him. So that is a non-negotiable as a leader, right? But there's other conversations that I'm going to have where I'm open, but that one is a non-negotiable, and I'm willing to present that truth in love. 00;11;23;12 - 00;11;40;07 Unknown So is the world flat? Is the world around? We know the answer to that question now, but what's the higher truth? That we can measure what we're believing against? Because I believe people will fight you to the death over what they believe, and they could be 110% wrong. They will fight you over it and you'll get into it. 00;11;40;09 - 00;12;03;21 Unknown You know, it'll break relationships. But what is the measure in which you're able to to allow yourself to filter your thought process in your belief systems through. And that's that's the real question that I'm processing through here when it comes to know I'm solid on this. Right. This is a non-negotiable. Now. Yeah, man, I'm totally open to this thought process here. 00;12;03;23 - 00;12;25;27 Unknown That's why it's important to, gauge who you follow based on what they believe. So there may be people like Elon Musk that, are very intelligent. However, where they get their source of truth is different than where I get more my source of truth. And so therefore I'm a little bit more cautious when following certain leaders that don't have the source of truth as scripture. 00;12;25;29 - 00;12;54;11 Unknown Right? So I love that, I love that let's talk about for a moment humility and leading with humility. I heard this, quote the beginning of humility is when you can share that you put yourself above other people. So the beginning of humility is when you can tell your wife that you put you above her. The first step into authenticity is recognizing your own inauthenticity. 00;12;54;18 - 00;13;11;05 Unknown Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, hey, when you. And that's a hard thing to say. That's a hard thing to tell your wife. Hey, by the way, I choose myself sometimes. Before, before you, I put myself above you. It's like, whoa, she might experience that. But saying that's a whole nother deal. And so I think that's like, humility is such a key role with leaders. 00;13;11;05 - 00;13;28;21 Unknown And you can see leaders. I see leaders politically that they they lack humility. And it just it stands out like a sore thumb a sore thumb. And so it's been my mission to and again, you can do humility or you can be humble right. Those are different. And you can tell them people are trying to do humility actually. 00;13;28;21 - 00;13;41;24 Unknown How do people do humility. What are some ways that they do you oh you got a couple and they're like, oh these, oh these shoes. Oh man. This just you know yeah that's right. These things are these old things. They were in the back of the closet or even drop in their head. I watched people do stuff for the kind of like drop their head. 00;13;41;24 - 00;13;59;20 Unknown I'm like, what are you doing? You know, like, they're they're trying to act humble, right? It's like just now stand up straight and be strong. And you can still you can be a strong leader without dropping your head and like, walking with your eyes towards the ground. Like, how do you be a strong, confident and bold leader? Well, also being humble. 00;13;59;20 - 00;14;34;14 Unknown So what would that look like for you guys? Being a strong, confident, bold leader, but then also being very humble and being humble, like, how do you how how does that show up? That happens this this happens around here. So we'll we run these events and we are coaches at these events. And at the end of these events, men will come up and say, very, very nice things to you, right? 00;14;34;16 - 00;14;53;19 Unknown People will come up and they will associate you as a person with the change or the transformation that they feel that's happening on the inside of them, but in their mind, they associate it with you because you're the person in the front of the room or you're the person that said that thing that that made something click in their head. 00;14;53;22 - 00;15;15;29 Unknown And so, it's interesting setting that right inside of. I'll just talk about my experience. It's been interesting journey for me to set that right, to find like the Christ like way of setting that inside myself, to both be fully present and accept a compliment. 00;15;16;02 - 00;15;39;17 Unknown And help that individual understand that there is no amount of words that I can say, no wise things that come out of my mouth that have the power to transform a man's heart, that is God. That, like God has shown up and met you here and you came and showed up and met God here, and there's something really beautiful that took place here. 00;15;39;18 - 00;16;07;00 Unknown There was a meeting that took place here, a new connection that took place here. And so I thank you so much for all the kind words. And I really appreciate it. This is my joy to get to do this. And though there's this way of pointing them back to the father, pointing them back to Jesus, and then sending them off when they leave this place, sending them off on a path to running towards him when they leave here, because I don't I don't want them running towards me. 00;16;07;01 - 00;16;27;17 Unknown No. Yeah. I want them running towards God. Yeah. You don't want to be their hero. No. No. Like it's that's too heavy for, it's too heavy for me to carry. And so that's been I think we platform people too often. Right. As far as a, as far as a society where we want to go look up to these megachurch pastors or these certain people of influence. 00;16;27;17 - 00;16;43;14 Unknown Yeah, but you don't you're not there with them in the times where you're seeing the very best, you're seeing the polish, you're seeing like you're not seeing them when they pee on the toilet seat and their wife gets mad, you know that you're not seeing them. When they were, they were frustrated and lost and you started yelling at their kids. 00;16;43;20 - 00;17;09;02 Unknown You're like, if you hold them to if you hold people to this degree of hero in your life, then what you're doing is setting yourself up for being let down later. I yeah, I've heard it said that, unspoken expectations are premeditated resentments. You're what you're doing is putting on this person an expectation to show up throughout their entire life to meet your version of hero that you've assigned to them. 00;17;09;02 - 00;17;39;25 Unknown They're not a party to it, like, but you're holding them to this expectation of showing up in that way and so that when they break it, because they will when they when they fail, they will when they sin, because they will when they do those things, they're now you have the this fertile ground for resentment to grow. And I think that the at least for my experience, especially here, is stepping into a place where I can accept a compliment and do it honestly and fully. 00;17;39;28 - 00;18;00;29 Unknown Man, I, I really appreciate all the kind things that you're saying. And there's Jesus and follow him. I think, and so so I usually compare pride and humility. Right. And I differentiate those two. So I had a buddy that used to, my buddy Joey back in high school. So this guy, his dad, I met his dad. 00;18;00;29 - 00;18;20;16 Unknown His dad is very, very, very prideful, very high level of pride. Firefighter guy. And so pride in an unhealthy way. And so I watched Joey. So when Joey would drive around his car, his truck, he would drive. He drive like this arm up, and he would just be, you know, just like, kind of like judging everybody or like, looking around as he's driving. 00;18;20;18 - 00;18;44;17 Unknown And so what's interesting is that to me that's like that's the opposite of humility. Right. And so pride. So often can get in the way of people producing results or being in relationship. Because at the end of the day, why are we here on earth? We're here to glorify God, but man, we're here to be in relationship and expand the kingdom through relationships like Jesus came to be in relationship with us in a man, the relationship that we had with the father. 00;18;44;19 - 00;19;09;14 Unknown That's why that's why he came here. He wanted to go men that so we can have that relationship. He loved us so much. And so like the whole point of earth is relationships. But pride will destroy any relationship. And so for me, a visualization. And I may have shared it with you guys, but a visualization that I have that kind of gut checks me, and prevents me from stepping in pride, when I want to go, my natural tendencies. 00;19;09;14 - 00;19;24;16 Unknown I want to feel prideful. Like, I can tell I can actually viscerally feel the pride feeling. Can you guys have you guys, can you want to talk about? Can you guys feel the pride feeling? It's like a it's a certain feeling. It's like a little bit of I'm better than someone else or it's it's it's that little feeling that wants to come in. 00;19;24;16 - 00;19;42;11 Unknown It's like oh, oh, there you are. Interesting. And so what gut checks means is visualization was I was riding my bike. I'm not visualization. This experience I was riding, I was teaching my son how to ride a bike, and I was pushing him, and holding the seatpost and, like, walking alongside him and teaching him how to pedal. 00;19;42;11 - 00;19;57;00 Unknown And then eventually, I knew I was going to let him go. And so but at a certain point, I was pushing him and I was holding it. And he looked at me. He looked. And as he was looking forward, he's like, dad, look, I'm I'm riding the bike by myself. And I was kind of like laughing. I'm like, no, I'm, I'm holding the bike. 00;19;57;00 - 00;20;11;10 Unknown Kind of. I'm running with him, holding the bike up. And so I feel like that's us with Jesus and with God. So what we do is we're like, look, look, what I did on my own is like, what are you talking about? Dude, I've been holding this thing up the whole time. Like, look, look at my marriage. 00;20;11;12 - 00;20;32;20 Unknown Like I brought you that woman. I'm bringing you the people to help refine you. I'm. I'm doing everything for you. It's like. So nothing that we do, there's no. I can't have pride. And, I mean, it's funny because I almost wish I could have some pride, but it's like I can't. God has brought me all the opportunities he's given me, all the ambition that I have. 00;20;32;26 - 00;20;51;29 Unknown He's giving like he's put the right people in front of me. He's literally done every single thing. I've taken action. But he gave me the will to take action. So it's like either way that I look at it, it's hard to be prideful because I'm like, shoot, it's stems from everything. Like it's like all of my ambition is here. 00;20;52;00 - 00;21;11;11 Unknown He gave it to me. So how does he let's go with the seatpost. You'd fall over 100%. Totally. So it's there that that keeps me in check. When it's a it's a deep core realization that man, it's like God is at the center and at the root of every bit of any success that I have in any area of my life. 00;21;11;13 - 00;21;33;14 Unknown And it's. Yeah, so that's exactly where I'm at. I stay grounded in gratitude, like I'm grateful for the opportunity to be here. I'm grateful for the men who've poured into my life. I'm grateful for the experiences, the good and the bad that have formed me, who I am. And I tie in well with what you're sharing. Jeremy is often at these events, men will come to us and they say very complimentary things about us. 00;21;33;17 - 00;21;52;14 Unknown And I always remind myself like it's because of the platform I'm standing on, because I look at some of these men. I mean, Coach Monroe is a perfect example. You know, I was blessed to coach your event, and here I am coaching you in the event, and you're saying complimentary things to me, and I'm like, brother, you know, you know, you could be standing here just like me. 00;21;52;14 - 00;22;11;27 Unknown I just happened to be standing with the microphone at this moment. Right. And then, sure enough, here you are, your head coach a couple months later. So just to always have that gratitude for where I'm at in life and what got me there is really what allows me to fight off that pride monster, man. It's so powerful. This conversation is so important, I believe, for every human being to walk through and really think through. 00;22;11;27 - 00;22;34;11 Unknown And I love, I love that we're having this conversation. There's two things you talked about. Illustration of pushing your bike, you know, with your son on it. And he's he's like, look, that. And it brought to mind as you were staring at the donkey that Jesus was on. And as he's entering and people are laying down these gifts, imagine the donkey thinking like, yeah, that's right, baby. 00;22;34;12 - 00;22;53;16 Unknown I put them gifts down. That's right. Lay him down. Who's the man? You know, you could just imagine, like, if that donkey. Right, like, this is a funny illustration, but think about the donkey. Like he he doesn't know the donkey is just there. And all these things, people are bowing, laying down gifts and and the donkey in his mind would be thinking, yeah, you know, I am. 00;22;53;16 - 00;23;23;02 Unknown I am that dude, you know? And now the pride has taken over. But if you think about it, that's what we look like. We look like a donkey. We look like an ass when we allow pride to take us over. So that illustration for me is it wasn't about the donkey is Christ on the donkey. And and when we can recognize that to your point, that is Christ in us, that's allowing people to receive us in such a way that we get compliments or we get these verbal affirmations of these types of things, is such a beautiful reminder. 00;23;23;02 - 00;23;42;03 Unknown That is him working in me and through me, and he gets all the glory. But now it begs the question, well, how do you practically show up in a way that's humble when you actually did show up and crush it in your craft, in your gift, in your anointing and your skill and your leadership and your ownership of the business and the way you communicate it. 00;23;42;09 - 00;24;04;27 Unknown And whatever the thing is that you do in your widget, making whatever this, how do you show up in a practical way that is humble, but yet you also showed up with such power and preparation and execution at a high level, something that I've learned that has served me really well because there was a sense of false humility when, for example, you went all out, you ain't got your haircut like you, you mouthwash. 00;24;04;28 - 00;24;21;24 Unknown You flossed, you showed up, you smelling good with your best Cologne on, and somebody throws you a compliment. Man, you look amazing. I love that shirt on you. It fits really good. Did you lose some weight? Oh, man. This shirt. Oh, man, I was just in the back of the closet. Nah, man. Yeah. This whole thing that is pride. 00;24;21;27 - 00;24;39;28 Unknown 100% pride because it's false. Humility. Because you are craving that compliment. And when you got it, you didn't handle it correctly. So what does that look like? What it looks like is. Thank you, ma'am. Two words. Thank you. I mean, that was hard for me. I was that guy. I didn't want to receive a call. It was hard for me to receive a compliment. 00;24;40;04 - 00;24;58;22 Unknown But yet deep down under the surface, like I craved it. And when I learned to just respond with those two words, knowing that in the background I had done the preparation, I had done all the things necessary to show up and present the best version of myself to to give the very best and serve at the highest level. 00;24;58;25 - 00;25;12;08 Unknown And and I wanted to do a, I want to do a good job. I want to do a great job, not a good job. I want to do a great job because I want to represent Christ well. I want to represent the organization well and I want to serve these people well. Somebody like, man, you did amazing. Wow. 00;25;12;10 - 00;25;43;02 Unknown Thank you. I believe that Jesus operated at that level. He was assertive. He wasn't arrogant, prideful. He didn't have false humility. He was assertive and he walked in truth. And to me, the definition of humility is walking in truth. So if someone gives a compliment, the practicality on that is thank you. It's good. Yeah. I believe, I believe you guys have done a good job at, 00;25;43;04 - 00;26;02;29 Unknown I feel like we have a pretty humble culture here at Rock. Like the in general, we've weeded out major pride. And so I think it was funny. I was talking to a buddy, and he was like, hey, so when can I feel pride? Because I can. I never feel pride. He said, what if I want to feel proud about something that I just did that was really incredible. 00;26;03;02 - 00;26;24;20 Unknown So I got me thinking, like, can we ever feel pride? Like, do we ever allow ourselves to experience any kind of pride in what we've done and accomplished? And so I'm, I after I assess that, I really process through that and I'm like, not for me. I'm like, I want to feel gratitude like I. And they're very similar feelings. 00;26;24;23 - 00;26;47;00 Unknown So a deep sense of gratitude can also feel like the feel, the good feeling of pride. Right. So they're very similar. And so I've just decided to switch out pride and like I like I actually don't allow myself to feel any pride. I will only allow myself to feel gratitude and shift that out because, I just don't want to get caught in the pride trap. 00;26;47;04 - 00;27;02;16 Unknown I don't want to feel like, hey, this is my accomplishment. The thing I did. I'd rather be like, Lord, thank you. This is so cool. Thank you. God, this is epic. This is epic. Like, thank you God. I'm going to feel the gratitude, which is so similar. So that's my perspective. I'm open to different perspectives, from you guys. 00;27;02;16 - 00;27;19;07 Unknown But for me, pride is like one of those tricky things where I don't it's it's like a, it's a, it could be a drug that could get too addicting if I allowed myself into it at all. I'd like to poke at that for a second. Yeah. I'm open. So, sometimes I believe people being caught up in a matter of semantics. 00;27;19;09 - 00;27;49;21 Unknown That's where I was going to go. Yeah. It's semantics. We got to define it. Yeah. And so and so, like, to be honest, like, I'm, I'm less concerned with, I'm less concerned with behavior. I'm more concerned with the heart. And in those things just for me personally, like I would be totally fine. Like this would be something I would say if I were struggling with waking up on time in the morning, let's say that you're watching this and you're a snooze button warrior, right? 00;27;49;21 - 00;28;05;09 Unknown You just rock that snooze button half a dozen times in the mornings, and then you start working with the coach. You start making decisions, you start putting habits in place, and you get clear on who it is you say you want to be. No, I'm a man of my word. I'm going to wake up at this time. And you get real clear on that. 00;28;05;09 - 00;28;22;26 Unknown You set up habits and you. Now, after a few months of working, you are a man who's been regularly showing up for 60 days. You have shown up and you have never hit the snooze button. In those 60 days. I can look at myself at the end of that and say, I'm really proud of the hard work I've put in now. 00;28;22;28 - 00;28;48;01 Unknown Is that pride or is that gratitude, man? We start really blurring the lines, like, I'm really thankful that God has given me this healthy mind and healthy body way I can show up in this way. It ends up being a matter of semantics in my view of like how we would actually articulate that thing out loud. And I will say, I'm not a huge fan of Dave Ramsey's don't use a credit card. 00;28;48;03 - 00;29;11;09 Unknown And if you've had problems with credit cards in the past, maybe you should just follow his advice, right? And so like also, if you've had huge problems with pride in the past, it's good. Maybe just out of an abundance of caution, maybe you should on the side of like stepping into the gratitude piece first and avoiding some of that language that could send you down this path of you did it all. 00;29;11;09 - 00;29;43;09 Unknown You did it yourself. Because God's the one who put breath in your lungs this morning. God's the one who's orchestrated the associations that you've put in your life. Yes, you did the work 100%. You've got a pedal, right? You have got to pedal. I believe God's calling all of us to pedal. But he's holding the seatpost so I can look at myself and say, I'm really proud that I've been pedaling so hard, and it's possible for me to also look back and say, and I couldn't have done any of this without him holding that seatpost up. 00;29;43;11 - 00;30;07;01 Unknown But we don't go forward unless I pedal and I don't stay upright unless he holds. It's good. I think celebrating the wins is really important. So some people, some people may struggle celebrating wins, right? Which is really a big deal. Meaning like, yeah, if you do stick with that thing for 60 days. Like it is really important to celebrate the win because you'll stop trying to do it if you don't give yourself that little boost, that little dopamine hit. 00;30;07;01 - 00;30;24;04 Unknown I'm like, man, heck yeah. So that's a good point. Semantics of whether it's, pride or feeling proud or what it is, I tend to be pretty deep in the way I'm like, navigating like, I want to go. I want to go see what that even more, because I'm really curious on even a win. Right. If you celebrate a win, what is that win? 00;30;24;11 - 00;30;44;20 Unknown Can you win? Can you have a win without feeling proud? Pride, or proud? I'm not sure. Yeah, I really want to explore that so I can get my my clarity around the whole pride conversation. Yeah. If we start paying attention, I like my view, at least for myself. It's like I start paying attention to how I occur in the world and pay attention. 00;30;44;20 - 00;31;06;23 Unknown Like, who it is I am and how I show up. Then I can recognize that, you know, because I have strong ego is a thing for me. There was times I have done some insidious things in my ego has led me. I allowed my ego to take the reins of my life for a long time, and then have worked really hard, and I thought, I got to kill the thing. 00;31;06;23 - 00;31;24;13 Unknown I have to kill it just by starvation and I starve the ego. And then somewhere someone comes up and says, hey Jeremy, really good job. No, like, no, I can't even think it, you know, I can't even I can't even think it. But the thing is, is like, I really am a high performer, I really do. I really do work hard. 00;31;24;13 - 00;31;46;05 Unknown I really do push it things. I really, I really am smart. I really am capable. And I think that makes me that makes me actually a little bit emotional. Like I can freaking say it, man. Like I can say who I am. And there was a time where, like, I would yeah, I would avoid saying any of those things. 00;31;46;05 - 00;32;03;16 Unknown I would drag my head down. I don't believe that's who God called us to be. He says, you're more than a conqueror. Yeah. He says that, they've been given a spirit of power, of love and a sound mind, not a spirit of fear. And I was so afraid for the longest time because my ego would show up and do these crazy things. 00;32;03;20 - 00;32;22;04 Unknown There was times where I was in selection to become a Green Beret. And there's this crazy long walk. You have to do at the end of selection after an intense week, and I am completely obliterated. Everyone is. And we start this, this crazy long overland movement with a heavy backpack on and you're given these chem lights to pop. 00;32;22;04 - 00;32;45;12 Unknown If you want to quit, you can quit at any time. They make it very easy for you to quit. And I was just in my head, man, I was really sick and my eyes are so heavy. I am just in the absolute trenches in my own mind, my physical bodies breaking down. And I'm around this corner. It's like wee hours of the morning around this corner and I see a Kim light popped. 00;32;45;15 - 00;33;12;25 Unknown Someone's quit. They're sitting on the side of the road. You guys, my shoulders come up, my chin comes up. I begin to jog. I was having trouble walking and keeping my eyes open, but the idea that I could run past this dude and he would know that I'm better than him filled me with so much. That means that the energy was actually in me, that like, the calories were actually there, the dopamine or the serotonin or whatever was necessary. 00;33;12;29 - 00;33;32;06 Unknown It was already in there. But the thing that allowed me to tap into it was the fact that I could present myself as better than that man as I ran by him. And that's exactly what I did. And that ego, that insidious ego of mine, would push me to do a great big things. And then I killed it. 00;33;32;08 - 00;33;56;22 Unknown I thought I killed it, I completely killed it. I tried to just. I tried to assassinate this thing. And then it made me this like, you know, if you if you keep going past contrite, if you keep going past a contrite heart, you end up in some sort of barren territory of worthlessness. Yeah. And and and so then there's a lot of guys that in the fear of ego. 00;33;56;24 - 00;34;12;28 Unknown Right. They've shifted into work for a very they hang their head low. And again, I was having a conversation last week with a guy. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? Put your head up. Yeah. You don't have to act humble. That's not it's not a it's not a physical like presence of you. Like having your head down is not you being humble? 00;34;12;28 - 00;34;30;08 Unknown No. So it's like, hey, dude, get it? Like, nope. Yeah. You can say who you are. I'm more than a conqueror. You can say that without stepping in pride or without it being a concept of ego. No, like I am a complete jar of clay. Yeah, man, the slightest little tump over and I could break all over. It's a good. 00;34;30;11 - 00;34;44;28 Unknown It's a good realization. It's like sugar for me in my, sugar addiction. Right. So some people can have, like, it's to be able to have a little bit of a sweet. Yeah. And to be fine and not versus having a sweet and then creams all over and then full on. It's like, how do you experience some of that that win. 00;34;44;28 - 00;35;01;24 Unknown How do you experience that win. And then shift back into gratitude or shift back into what you need to be as you're experiencing that win, versus having that own you? And then all of a sudden, you gripping all of that from a permanent place of insecurity. That's what usually almost always ego and pride comes from a place of insecurity. 00;35;01;24 - 00;35;31;29 Unknown It's like this. It's this need to be seen or to be better than other people, which has it. And it's insecurity. So pride man, pride is yeah, it's a beast. We think it's been ours on that. But. So I wanted to share something. Got that while we were talking, I just looked up the definition of pride, and I want to read this from Webster's dictionary says pride can mean an undue and exaggerated sense of one's own superiority and worth, often leading to arrogance and haughty behavior. 00;35;32;02 - 00;35;56;01 Unknown So when we think about this definition, and we go back to the first time that I'm aware of pride taking place in the history, it's a biblical example of of Lucifer, right? Like one of three angels, incredible leadership opportunity, incredible gifting vocal cords built into the system. Like I can imagine as being like this beautiful angel. And then pride comes in the first sin. 00;35;56;04 - 00;36;23;06 Unknown The first sin, like, literally why hell was created was a home for Lucifer, now known as Satan. And when you think about to me, when I think about pride, it is the the culprit to every other sin is the gateway to every other sin. And for me, I agree with you scholar, in regards to not wanting any parts of allowing pride to rule or reign or even a hint of it in my life. 00;36;23;08 - 00;36;40;18 Unknown So the understanding that I'm nothing without Christ, and that through him I can do all things. And I am more than a conqueror, and I am blessed. And being able to walk and toe that line, of being assertive like Christ was to me is, is the the fabric, the foundation of who I am as a man. 00;36;40;20 - 00;37;03;26 Unknown So giving all of myself, preparing, recognizing that I am intelligent, I am articulate, I am smart, I am gifted, I am blessed to me to be able to say those things and not drop my head is a form of humility, because I understand who gave me those gifts, and it wasn't me in and of myself. It was him who works in me and through me, and I want to glorify him with my life. 00;37;03;27 - 00;37;36;06 Unknown Therefore, I give the very best in my ability to bring honor to him by being a good steward of those things. But I understand the source and the foundation is him, not me. So when someone acknowledges and gives me a compliment and I just respond with a thank you, it's to me. It's humbling to do that. It's hard to do that because I want to explain it and I want to say, oh no, you know, but just being able to sit in that uncomfortability in that moment and lean into the awkward of that and just say thank you is a sign of humility because I'm just walking in truth and I'm not trying to justify 00;37;36;06 - 00;38;03;12 Unknown or explain. So for me, I want to live a life in a way where I can preach the gospel and use words only if necessary in a life of humility to me is what does that best? It's great. Yeah. We, And what's for some reason, what came to mind us now is I was having a conversation with a close family member of mine last night, and they're going through a lot, like, a significant challenge. 00;38;03;15 - 00;38;43;06 Unknown And I just felt the Holy Spirit say, tell them they're valuable. And so I reached back in the car, looked at them and said, hey, I just want to let you know, like, you are valuable. And so it's it's a it's interesting man, because you have this you have this humility and this this inner. And I believe humility comes with it, a level of security and confidence and power, which allows you to then, like, not only receive compliments, but then to be able to authentically give compliments and to be able to love on people like to be humble, to be I, I would say that the the the best humility is a humility 00;38;43;06 - 00;39;08;16 Unknown that comes from a level of, security, not from a level of insecurity. Right? False humility will come with insecurity. I think real humility, like the most epic human, human beings that I've met, they operate with humility. But that humility is like, combined with power, power, strength, security. Like they're just a grounded, secure man that can that has the ability to love on other people. 00;39;08;16 - 00;39;30;00 Unknown Well, it's interesting that you say this because I'm thinking through the many men who come to this program, and every once in a while we'll have a dude that comes through. And he's extremely prideful and arrogant and haughty, and everybody sees my marketing purposely keeps those guys out, like most, most of the guys, for some reason, like I don't attract the super arrogant, prideful dudes. 00;39;30;06 - 00;39;50;03 Unknown Other programs do like high ego men's programs. They'll gather all those dudes. Yeah, but for some reason, like our program, it's really cool. It's very limited. But yes, there are there are. Every now and then, people come. Yeah, but but I can count on one hand in two years, how many other countries? Hahaha. Yeah. Let's go. 00;39;50;06 - 00;40;16;20 Unknown Yes, sir. Okay. You know, I love it. You know, I mean, it depends on which hand it depends. Okay. I'm grateful for both of these hands though, man. Yeah, baby. So every once in a while there's, there's two guys that come to mind now in the last two years. And both of them, both of these guys were extremely at the core of themselves from the ages of 8 to 10 years old, had an experience that left them very insecure. 00;40;16;22 - 00;40;35;00 Unknown And almost, almost almost every time, if you experience someone who's prideful, arrogant, haughty at the core of who they are deep down, but beneath the surface there's an insecurity there that has been driving them their entire life. And that little boy, that little insecure boy inside of them is showing up and running their life, even though they're in a girl man's body. 00;40;35;00 - 00;40;55;21 Unknown So that has been my experience. And when someone's extremely showing up like that in a private, arrogant way, and if we can get to that insecurity and help them find security and who they truly are, it eradicates the pride and arrogance. You know, I believe your associations really assist with that. And, I, I'd be curious if you guys have the same experience, especially you Jeremy. 00;40;55;24 - 00;41;22;00 Unknown So my experience here definitely. We don't see those guys very often. But the other place I don't experience those guys are in martial arts gyms where there's some type of sparring. Like in my experience, when you go to a gym, like a boxing gym, a judo gym, wrestling, the BJJ, like there's not a lot of that false arrogance out there, because in the room everybody knows exactly where they fall in the pecking order. 00;41;22;00 - 00;41;39;26 Unknown Yep. We could like you would. You can light up people without a word. Yeah. And it doesn't matter your belt. It is not always going to be in belt order either. Right. We could line up and know. Yeah. And, there's just something about being around associations when you run with other men at a high level, it's it ground. 00;41;39;27 - 00;42;01;05 Unknown It's grounded. Me I know exactly. Kind of like where I fall in, in my abilities at the moment and where I can grow and and where I've exceeded. And I had that experience in martial arts gyms. And it's it's kind of crazy, too, because you have such a cross-section of society, like I've rolled with guys that are like super high end business owners and I have rolled in a class. 00;42;01;05 - 00;42;22;22 Unknown We're living in his mom's basement and wearing an ankle bracelet because he just got released. Yeah, right. So drug dealer role in with an ex-cop. If you're listening to this, we love you. Still ain't got ankle bracelet, man. Well, the well the the I love that you bring that up because I do love that guy. Yeah. Because that guy like I might not invite him necessarily to my house to watch my kid. 00;42;22;27 - 00;42;46;08 Unknown Yeah, right. But, that's good. Yeah. We're still waiting on the litigation stuff, but, no, like, there's something about that guy, his power and his humility that is very attractive. And I'm like, man, this guy is like my guy. And here I'm a cop, and he just got released from fighting cops, right? And I'm like, this is my guy. 00;42;46;11 - 00;43;19;25 Unknown Like, there's something about this guy that is very authentic. Yeah. That, that and the the cool thing I've noticed is that so just like you're saying is that you can line all these dudes up in a room and we all know where we fall in the pecking order. And the guys that are higher in line on the pecking order are always turning back to the younger guy like, I am who I am in jujitsu now, not just because of my instructor, but because of all the men that are above me that have taken the time to teach me along the way, and all the men that were above them, that were taking the time 00;43;19;25 - 00;43;43;13 Unknown to teach them along the way. And it's this constant folding back and and now, like I get to experience that and in some small way with the the people who have joined the gym after me and who don't know as much as I know now, it's like I know one eye dropper, like in the world of jujitsu, it's like I have, thimble full of knowledge and an ocean full of potential. 00;43;43;16 - 00;44;08;05 Unknown I but there are people who know less than me. Not many, but there are. And so. And it's like my joy then to get to, like, help them along the journey as well. And so like that pecking order that you're talking about is really interesting that we absolutely know. And it doesn't matter. Your belt, there are people that are a lower belt than me that I know will give me a rough time. 00;44;08;08 - 00;44;33;19 Unknown And, and we know we we know how it's going to work out, the two of us, in the same way there's guys that are higher belt than me that we roll. We both know who's going to win. It's likely not the belt. And my experiences is that weed's out that posturing. Like I don't experience posturing at ruck and the only other place I can really think where I've been surrounded by many, many powerful men where there's no posturing is in, in that environment. 00;44;33;25 - 00;44;54;09 Unknown Everywhere else I've been with powerful men, there's all this kind of posturing going around in this, this strutting and like there's no ego on the mat, no ego on the mat, and there's no ego here. What are you guys is, as we, as we start to close out, what are a couple tips that you guys would use to, support men who are looking to have a, to to build confidence, right. 00;44;54;09 - 00;45;11;10 Unknown So, a lack of confidence or insecurity can lead to pride. So what are some ways that a man could ground himself? Right. We always talk about we talk about identity in Christ a lot. And I think we need to have a whole episode on identity in Christ because it's so it's so vague. It's like, oh yeah, just get your identity in Christ. 00;45;11;10 - 00;45;31;01 Unknown It's so, so colloquial is on the cross. Like what? How? Just read a couple verses, like, how do I get my identity from Christ? And like, there's a process, by the way, and most people don't know that process, so that'd be that'd be a great episode. But what are a couple tips for guys listening to this that notice pride still coming up. 00;45;31;03 - 00;45;59;28 Unknown And they want to, at the root get to the root and start to like ground and have true confidence where they don't need to act or have their ego protect them anymore. They're just a grounded good, confident, man couple, maybe one nugget each of what's what's one thing you would do or you have done to either ground yourself or to build confidence in yourself where you don't need to front or have the ego out front. 00;46;00;03 - 00;46;19;14 Unknown So, I know we just talked about jiu jitsu. Whether you are a guy who shows up in tons of ego, I know a place that will help ground you real fast. If you're a guy who shows up with a lack of confidence that nothing ever works out for you and all the all the thing, nothing ever works out for me and I. 00;46;19;18 - 00;46;41;17 Unknown I'm weak and I'm okay. If you could just show up, show up to a gym that isn't, isn't all wrapped up in a whole bunch of. There's some there's some things that you're some indicators you're looking for to get involved with the gym, but you show up to a gym as a guy that's struggling with confidence. And what you're going to find is in a bunch of people waiting to just choke you out and use you as some ragdoll. 00;46;41;18 - 00;46;59;00 Unknown No one there will do that. What you're going to find is a place that's going to bring you along. They're going to walk out in front of you like a shepherd and look back and beckon and call you to come to them. Good. Right? Gym with the right gym. And so it's important that some indicators and you can go look online for indicators of what kind of a jujitsu gym to get involved with. 00;46;59;00 - 00;47;24;04 Unknown But in my experience, there is nothing that will do that better for both ends of that spectrum. The guy showing up in all his pride and ego and and loves to posture. Well, there's a place that's going to show you, it's going to introduce you to reality. There's a place down the road from you that's going to introduce you to the reality of the situation, that you're not as big, you're not as tough, you're not as strong, you're not you're not as hard as you think you are. 00;47;24;07 - 00;47;50;06 Unknown And then if you're open to it, what you're going to find, there's a place as a group of people that are going to literally, like, wrap themselves around you, both figuratively and literally. They are going to wrap themselves around you and bring you into something that's going to be truly remarkable. And if you're a guy who shows up with a lack of confidence, there is a place there full of people that are waiting to show you the way, to help you build confidence and the way you show up in the world. 00;47;50;06 - 00;48;13;14 Unknown Because when you wake up a dangerous man, then everywhere you go, that's what Matthew five five is built on. The meek shall inherit the earth. It doesn't. A weak man can not show up in virtue. It's a strong man, a dangerous man that has the potential to show up in virtue. That I am dangerous, I can hurt, I can cut, I can, and I choose not to. 00;48;13;17 - 00;48;35;10 Unknown That's where virtue lies. So if you are weak, the the, the onus is on you to get strong. So for me it is one word. It's train and you be think. Well how does that help me when it comes to I'm prideful and arrogant and I want to show with more humility or I am operating out of a space of insecurity and I don't feel like I'm enough. 00;48;35;10 - 00;49;04;26 Unknown But yet I need to build confidence and I'm going to explain it. So train, train daily to build a strong body, a stronger soul, and the strongest spirit. Herschel Walker said. My mind is the general and my body is the army. And when you are a powerful coach, John, use this example. I love it. And he said he's a dog guy, he trained dogs and he's very skilled in that area. 00;49;04;28 - 00;49;20;08 Unknown And he used this illustration of having a massive dog that can do some serious, serious work and cause a lot of damage. You don't ever hear that dog barking. You don't hear that dog making a ruckus, but you get a Chihuahua out not to wobble, wants the whole world to know that is potentially got some. So. So what? 00;49;20;12 - 00;49;43;15 Unknown Why is that? The the Chihuahua is posturing. A Chihuahua wants everybody to know like, hey, don't mess with me because it's a free right. And if you're prideful and arrogant and you're showing up like that, there's a deep rooted insecurity in you. But if you train and you start taking care of your physical body, you start, looking at the belief system and digging deep with associations around you that can help you get feedback on why you're showing up that way and you're open enough to receive that feedback. 00;49;43;18 - 00;50;05;15 Unknown And then you start digging into Scripture to understand who you truly are. And you train in such a way. Every single day is going to shift you in a powerful way, because there's always somebody out there that's better than you. Making more money than you looks better than you had a better six pack than you. You're going to always find somebody better, and there's always somebody out there better who's not as smart as you, who doesn't make as much money as you, who doesn't have a wife as beautiful as yours, who's not showing up the way you're showing up. 00;50;05;16 - 00;50;20;25 Unknown So there's always this dichotomy at work where you can show up and recognize that there's always somebody out here better, but there's always somebody I can help. And when you can recognize that no matter where I'm at my journey, I could train daily to grow as a man in my spirit, soul and body and become stronger. It's going to help you to remain humble. 00;50;20;27 - 00;50;45;11 Unknown So what I would say is train every single day, and there's a realization that I still have room to grow, and I've come a long way, and that'll keep you humble, to recognize that you're right where you're supposed to be. And you can always add value while you're still learning simultaneously. I'd say walk confidently to a place where you can bend the knee. 00;50;45;14 - 00;51;22;09 Unknown And I believe that's, counterculture right now with where our country is going. I give some examples of that, obviously prayer. Right. Praying to God, the Pledge of Allegiance again, becoming more and more rare, in the jujitsu class, showing, respect to that black and white photo of that man who came before you. I've heard some stuff online where guys like, oh, if you if you attend, martial arts studio, and they, they bow before class to a black and white photo, then I would run and I would say, yeah, I'd run right to it because there's a whole big lack of that in our society right now of giving respect and honor 00;51;22;09 - 00;51;46;15 Unknown to those who came before us. The other strong men from our culture. So, yeah, walk confidently and find places to bend the knee. That's good. Yeah. And all and I'm, I'm working with somebody right now on stepping into a new level of confidence and confidence. Many times it's produced all self-esteem. So self-esteem is to esteem yourself. 00;51;46;17 - 00;52;05;16 Unknown Right. And so the, the where you see yourself in a, in a good manner, where you have an esteem, where you're like, no, I follow through with my commitments. No. I'm consistent with my workouts where there's a level of esteem as you increase your self-esteem, your self-confidence increases. Now, we have to be careful because on the other end of the spectrum is narcissism. 00;52;05;18 - 00;52;22;22 Unknown Narcissism is an overinflated view of oneself is narcissism. And there's a spectrum of that. Right. And so we want to be careful not to, again, that could be another good conversation. But we want to be careful not to move over there. And then on the other side is the self basher, which is like the guy that's like, I can't do anything right. 00;52;22;22 - 00;52;45;12 Unknown I'm just just over, over. Critical of himself and the narcissist is not critical of himself at all. No critique, no self-awareness. And so I would and so I think for, for me, as I'm working with this, with this young man, how I want to help him produce more results. And so it is. Hey, what is your morning routine look like? 00;52;45;12 - 00;53;11;19 Unknown What does your, your your workout routine look like? Like, stick with a routine where you can workout every single day or 5 or 6 days a week and start to build that natural confidence that that will come from the results. The result is I'm consistent, I'm disciplined, and I follow through with my word. And as you follow through with your word, you start to your self-esteem increases, your self-confidence increases. 00;53;11;22 - 00;53;32;12 Unknown As you know that you are a man of your word. I'd say the biggest one of a major detractor from self-confidence. Self-esteem is you are breaking your word to yourself, not only to other people, but it's to yourself. And so for those of you listening, if there's an area where you're breaking your word to yourself, either like remove that commitment, like stop, don't go after that goal anymore. 00;53;32;12 - 00;53;55;05 Unknown If you know, if you know you're not going to follow through with it or commit today that, hey, I'm going to I'm going to find a way to follow through with my word, because your word is everything, and then have some accountability around that. Find a mentor, find a peer, find a coach that can support you on helping you follow through with your word until your character becomes that of someone who follows their word. 00;53;55;07 - 00;54;14;19 Unknown Like you want to be known as the guy that follows your word, like you are that dude and everyone knows it, and that that will allow you to walk around with a level of a level of self-esteem and confidence. That's, I believe, more grounded, than than insecurity. So thank you guys for this conversation. We got an event going on. 00;54;14;25 - 00;54;32;11 Unknown We're going to cruise back to it and support these men on, leveling up, you know, and I'm going to I'm going to leave with this verse, Philippians two three through four, do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility, value others above yourself.